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PostSubject: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:25 pm

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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:40 am

Fuck Canseco; Magglio is ten times the player and 100 times a human being than Jose will ever be.
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:42 am

Magglio Ordonez will be in Jose Canseco's new book

January 24, 2008

By A.J. PEREZ

USA TODAY

Jose Canseco says he thinks he knows why his second book was nearly killed: representatives of Detroit Tigers outfielder Magglio Ordonez or Major League Baseball officials hassled his original publisher.

"When I first met with them, they loved it. Then out of the blue they decided not publish it. I thought that was strange," Canseco said in a telephone interview Thursday. "I think some pressure came down from either Major League Baseball, Ordonez's people or both."

MLB denied Canseco's claim. "None of this is true," said Rich Levin, vice president of public relations. "We had nothing to do with" his book being dropped by the Penguin Group.

The publisher and Ordonez's agent, Scott Boras, did not return phone calls.

A New York Times story, citing a person with knowledge of the situation, Wednesday said Canseco promised to keep Ordonez out of Vindicated, the follow up to his 2005 bestseller Juiced, in return for a $5 million investment in a movie project.

The Times, according to four people in baseball, said MLB officials and Ordonez's agent's office made referrals to the FBI. But a formal investigation was not opened because Ordonez said he didn't want to pursue it.

Ordonez was not named in former senator George Mitchell's report on performance-enhancing drugs.

Canseco, who admitted to using steroids and identified several major leaguers in Juiced, said Ordonez's name will appear in Vindicated, which is due out March 31.

Asked what evidence he had, Canseco said "I can't tell you. You will have to read the book."

Don Yaeger was scheduled to co-author the book with Canseco but backed out of in December. Yaeger told the Times that Canseco planned to name Ordonez and that "He was the most prominent."

Berkley Books, a division of the Penguin Group, dropped Vindicated earlier this month. It was picked up by Simon Spotlight Entertainment, a division of Simon & Schuster, on Tuesday. Pablo Fenjves, the ghost writer for O.J. Simpson's book If I Did It signed on to co-author the book.

"They said it could be a No. 1 bestseller," Canseco said of his new publisher. "They're obviously not feeling the pressure that Penguin felt, which is smaller publisher. I think (Penguin) felt overwhelmed."

Yaeger, who Canseco said he only spoke with once, said he reviewed a 9,000-word transcript given to him by Canseco's people and spoke with Canseco several times before he determined there wasn't enough to warrant a new book.

"You could see what was and wasn't there," Yeager said in a telephone interview.

Juiced was part of the impetus for the original congressional hearings into steroid use in baseball three years ago. Canseco linked several major leaguers — including Mark McGwire, Jason Giambi and Miguel Tejada — to steroids.

Those players and others implicated in Juiced were named in the Mitchell Report. But Canseco said he feels slighted that Mitchell didn't contact him even though the report cited Juiced several times.

"I think I've shown to be more credible than Major League Baseball, Mitchell Report (investigators) or anybody in baseball," Canseco said.

Canseco said he spoke briefly with a Mitchell representative when the investigation started nearly two years ago.


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:49 am

I say we start a writing campaign asking fans at all MLB fan sites to boycott anything put out by CONseco. He cheats and tries to continue harming EVERYONE HE CAN for PROFIT! He is now using a National Inquirer phony to write the book, guess he can't write worth a Censored.

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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:55 am

I would not read Canseco's book if you paid me a 100 bucks
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:56 am

Though it could be used for toilet paper
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:03 am

gs78 wrote:
Though it could be used for toilet paper

LMAO LMAO LMAO
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:28 pm

How low can he go?
Canseco might speak the truth, but he's still a jerk
Posted: Friday January 25, 2008 5:44PM; Updated: Friday January 25, 2008 5:44PM

For an interesting read on CONseco, SI did an interesting article:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/01/25/heyman.canseco/index.html


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:44 pm

Another good article by SI:

Canseco adds blackmail to resume
Report: Mr. Steroids offered to keep Ordonez 'clear'
Posted: Wednesday January 23, 2008 11:22PM; Updated: Thursday January 24, 2008 12:39AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/01/23/canseco.book.ordonez.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:02 pm

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Canseco's credibility in question

It's getting harder to believe everything Jose Canseco says is true.

If this latest report is accurate -- The New York Times reported Wednesday that Canseco tried to get cash from Tigers outfielder Magglio Ordonez in order to keep Ordonez out of the next book on baseball players who have taken steroids -- Canseco will lose a lot of the credibility he had on this subject.

Canseco, the former slugger and admitted steroid user, was right on the money with his best-selling book, "Juiced," in 2005.

He never was sued by any of the players named in that book, including Tigers catcher Pudge Rodriguez, who was Canseco's teammate with the Rangers.

Canseco also was vindicated when the Mitchell Report quoted his book extensively in outing players in baseball's steroids scandal.

It's not fair

But since his book first came out, Canseco has been running around like a crazed tattletale, claiming he knows of more players who have juiced and that he's going to expose them, including Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez. A-Rod has denied use.

That's a slippery slope -- throwing out names without proof. And it doesn't seem fair in a society where you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

Even if there's no further proof about Ordonez, his name has been smeared. People now will look at him as a user. If it's not true, it's not fair.

You have to ask yourself why the same publisher isn't interested in printing Canseco's second book, titled "Vindicated." Heck, any publisher. It was dropped by one last week, only to be picked up by another.

He also has had trouble getting an author to help him write the book, eventually turning to a former National Enquirer writer.

That has to raise questions about whether Canseco really has firsthand knowledge of these charges. Clearly, it appeared he had that in the first book because he played with those guys.

More importantly, if Canseco knew of other big-name players, including A-Rod, why weren't they included in the first book? You wouldn't leave out the biggest fish of all. That makes no sense.

Is motivation money?

Sure, it would not be shocking if, indeed, it was revealed that Ordonez took steroids or human growth hormone. It's pretty clear a lot of players did.

And that's not just for Ordonez, but just about any player who played in the major leagues the last 15 or 20 years.

Still, according to the latest report, the details are dirty. Apparently, Canseco told Ordonez he would be "clear" in his next book if he would invest in a movie Canseco was working on.

Sadly, Canseco now comes off as simply desperate for money, apparently willing to do whatever he can to get some.

So, it now appears as if people were right about him. He never had the game's best interest at heart, just his.

You can reach Rob Parker at rob.parker@detnews.com.


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:25 pm

Canseco is a jackass !!! He is full of shit and everyone is finally starting to realize it. This guy is the whore of all whores !!!
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:20 pm

Jose Canseco was great on that pitiful washed-up celebrity wannabe reality show where they all live together in a big hohouse drunkenly longing for the old days when they actually mattered.
If he were to drop dead the world would be a better place!!
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:03 pm

You said it all Saint...couldn't agree more!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:13 pm

tigersaint wrote:
Jose Canseco was great on that pitiful washed-up celebrity wannabe reality show where they all live together in a big hohouse drunkenly longing for the old days when they actually mattered.
If he were to drop dead the world would be a better place!!

He said it, that settles it!!! You tell em Saint!
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:08 am

jose canseco was a good baseball player in his day. everybody has to give him that. what he did in oakland and toronto. was good. but after that he became a jack ass. yes he admitted to your roids. you want a pant on the back. ..yes officer i did shoot that clerk... now i get a book deal?
come one, face it. this piece of meat is nothing more that a money grabbing parasite. and everybody should just not listen anymore. i have not read the book " juiced" nor will i. just because somebody said they cheated with others? what do i care. this is not my team.
nobody on the detroit tigers was found guilty. not maggs not sheff. not kenny . or pudge. if i was pudge . i would have gone ballastic. come right out and say ." listen dim bulb prove it or sthu"
it is a shame a player that did what he could do on the field. will never be remember for it. he will always be rememberd as a cheat and a con man.
shame.
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:21 am

greed is a sin
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:10 am

He will have to answer, someday, for his campaign of destruction! OK, we know now that roids were used, but they were not illegal then and are now. If the players are not using them now, the game is better for it. But enough with your money making crap, CONseco. Now you use it as a con job.


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:34 pm

Leave Maggs alone!
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PostSubject: Canseco: Ordonez claim was payback   Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:12 am

Canseco: Ordonez claim was payback
Former slugger says call to Magglio was for 'investment'
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DETROIT -- Jose Canseco told a Detroit radio station that he included Magglio Ordonez in his latest book, "Vindicated," only after The New York Times ran a story suggesting he had tried to extort money from Ordonez. He also said he had tried to reach Ordonez about what he called an investment opportunity.

Canseco appeared with host Frank Beckmann on WJR on Wednesday and repeated his accusation that he injected Ordonez with steroids while they were teammates on the 2001 White Sox. However, he suggested that he didn't originally plan to include it in the book.

"He was a very, very, very late addition to my book because of what he did with that article," Canseco told Beckmann. "He would've never been in my book if he would've just not done anything at all, or not written [anything] or had this article somehow placed in the newspaper about me. That was ridiculous."

A January report in the Times cited Major League Baseball sources saying that Canseco approached Ordonez offering to keep his name out of the book if Ordonez helped finance a film project Canseco was pursuing. The report went on to say that Ordonez contacted the Tigers, who contacted Major League Baseball, but that Ordonez chose not to press charges.

When Beckmann asked Canseco why he was going to leave Ordonez out, Canseco said, "Because I didn't need any more players to justify my position. But he basically slit his own throat."

When Beckmann suggested Canseco vindictively put him in the book, Canseco said, "Just as he vindictively said to the media, or indirectly said to the media, or somehow fixed this to say I was trying to extort money from him. Are you kidding me? That's ridiculous."

The book appeared in stores last week. In a chapter near the end of the book, Canseco claims that Ordonez asked him about steroids, and then describes a conversation and the ensuing injection.

Ordonez has declined comment on Canseco's book.

Though Canseco has previously denied contacting Ordonez about the book, he told Beckmann that he had tried to reach Ordonez.

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"I tried to contact Magglio and his agent and a few other people for an opportunity for an investment," Canseco said. "I called them constantly. No one ever returned my phone call. Now, the next thing I hear in the paper is that I'm trying to extort money from Magglio Ordonez."

The interview ended abruptly when Beckmann brought up Ordonez's statistics in the years leading up to Canseco's season with him and asked why there wasn't a significant increase in performance.

"Are you calling me a liar?" Canseco asked. "Are you calling me a liar? Later."


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:17 am

JOSE:

fingers Up Yours YOU MONEY-GRUBBING DUMBASS
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:29 am

That guy is an idiot!
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:22 am

How dare he try to smear our campeon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:31 am

what the hell is cnoseco doing??? hes blaming everybody for using steroids now. i think it might be jealousy the they are doing better than he could ever wish to, (especially Maggs) but that doesnt mean u go blame them for using roids just bcuz u did and they still do better, what a jackass
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:21 pm

I told you he is a con-man to beat all con-men!

Check this article:


Canseco: 'My Motive Is to Attack Major League Baseball'
Jose Canseco Names New Names, Challenges Findings of Mitchell Report
By MARTIN BASHIR and MARY MARSH
March 27, 2008

It comes as no surprise that Jose Canseco has come out swinging again. The former slugger who blew the lid off steroid use in Major League Baseball with his explosive book three years ago is aiming for the rafters again.

Although "Juiced" spent seven weeks on The New York Times Best Seller List, baseball did not respond well to Canseco's brutal account and seemed unprepared to admit that some of its most celebrated players may have been using performance-enhancing drugs.

"It was a pretty, pretty clear message to me that I was a pariah, I was dangerous," Canseco told "Nightline" co-anchor Martin Bashir in an exclusive interview. "I was poisonous to the game of baseball."

It seems unlikely that reaction to his new book is going to be much different, but Canseco refuses to be silenced. "I think the public needs to know the truth," he said.

Canseco's second book, titled "Vindicated: Big Names, Big Liars and the Battle to Save Baseball," names more names and makes more claims. When asked if his motives have anything to do with money, he said "absolutely not."

"My motive, and I will make it clear and look you in the eyes, is to attack MLB. That's my motive."

In the book, Canseco goes after the biggest name in baseball today: Alex Rodriguez, saying that in the late 1990s he introduced Rodriguez to a trainer who could provide steroids.

Canseco admits that he never injected Rodriguez or gave him steroids, and doesn't know for sure whether that trainer -- whom he refuses to identify -- or anyone else gave Rodriguez steroids. Nevertheless, he said he believes that Rodriguez was a user, writing in the book that "I'm confident it was the 'roids. I believed it then and I believe it now. I've been down this road too many times with too many guys. I know the way it works.

"I cannot bet my life on it, because I was not involved, that Alex Rodriguez ever used steroids," Canseco told Bashir. "But in my opinion, I suspect he has, yes."

Hitting on His Wife

Canseco admits that there's no love lost between the two of them. He also claims that back in the late 1990s Rodriguez began hitting on his then-wife.

"First time he saw Jessica, we were in the gym -- I had a 5,000-square-foot gym in Florida -- he looks at her, he looks at me and says, 'That is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.' I found out after that that he was calling her up; her and I were having problems."

When asked if that's why he decided to include Rodriguez in the book, Canseco replied, "partially yes and partially no."

"What I'm really saying to you is, are you mentioning Alex Rodriguez not because he's a known steroid user but because you hate him?" Bashir asked.

"There's a lot of reasons why," Canseco replied. "Alex portrays himself to be something that he's not. Like almost every other player, we were friends back then.… Basically they have all ousted me, won't talk to me, won't deal with me."

When asked about Conseco's ex-wife, Rodriguez told Newsday that "I have absolutely no comment." Wednesday, when asked further questions, Rodriguez had little more to offer. "Guys, anything with baseball I would love to talk about," Rodriguez said. "Absolutely nothing else on that matter."

Rodriguez has categorically and consistently denied ever using performance enhancement drugs, to which Canseco said, "So did Rafael Palmeiro, so did Mark McGwire, so did Sammy Sosa, and so on down the line. What does that prove?"

'It's Hard to Believe McNamee'

In 2006, MLB commissioned former Sen. George Mitchell to conduct an inquiry into the extent of steroid abuse in baseball.

In the report, one name stood head and shoulders above the rest: All-Star pitcher Roger Clemens. Canseco doesn't believe the report is accurate when it comes to Clemens, because he said the statements made by Clemens' former trainer, Brian McNamee, about Canseco aren't true.

"It's hard to believe McNamee when there are certain occasions in the Mitchell Report where McNamee mentions that I'm with Roger at a certain event or something is said that's not true. So it's hard to believe McNamee when he speaks about injecting Roger Clemens directly," Canseco told Bashir. "Maybe McNamee is under pressure to give some information that's not completely truthful. I have no idea."

Brian McNamee's lawyer told ABC News that his client had "testified truthfully under oath," but Canseco is adamant the allegations about Clemens being at his house for a party in 1998 are untrue, despite some claims that there might be a photograph of him there.

"I'd like to see it. I can't make a comment or an opinion on what I don't have or haven't seen."

If Canseco finally gives Clemens the all clear at the end of the book, flying in the face of the Mitchell Report, he's not so generous when it comes to slugger Magglio Ordonez. Canseco claimed firsthand knowledge that Ordonez used steroids back when they were teammates on the Chicago White Sox in 2001. He told Bashir he supplied Ordonez with steroids and injected him. Canseco said he arranged for and passed two lie detector tests to add weight to his claims about Ordonez.

When asked why he didn't mention Ordonez in "Juiced," Canseco said, "I thought I had enough players. I didn't want to incorporate anymore names. I thought I had plenty."

The New York Times reported that Ordonez could have avoided an appearance in Canseco's second book as well.

"Did you offer to keep his name out of the second book if he agreed to make an investment in a project of yours?" Bashir asked, referring to that report.

"No, never," Canseco said. "I never authorized anyone or spoke with Magglio or spoke with his agent directly. As a matter of fact, I left them plenty of messages to call me, they never did."

"If that's the case," Bashir asked, "why would Mr. Ordonez allow these suggestions, these allegations to be referred to the FBI?"

"I have no idea," Canseco said. "And I'm wondering why. I have no idea. And I'm sure, and I'm sure, when all is said and done, like it has so far, the truth will come."

In response to the allegations in Canseco's new book, Ordonez, now with the Detroit Tigers, said, "He had a chance in the first book to talk about me, so why wait three more years to say what he says? … There are a lot more important things to worry about."

'They Knew Exactly What Was Going On'

So, according to Canseco, Clemens has never used steroids, but Magglio Ordonez has and he suspects Alex Rodriguez has, too. He rejects the Mitchell Report as incomplete and said he alone can provide the truth when it comes to what happened inside the locker rooms of baseball. And he said that baseball's ownership knew about it as well.

"The owners usually have what we call a scout inside the clubhouse. It's more or less known as a snitch. An individual, who hangs out with the players, could be a clubhouse boy, it could be a player, it could be anyone. So yeah, they knew exactly what was going on."

In the book, Canseco said that baseball owners and the players union turned a blind eye to the clear evidence of steroid use in baseball. He includes in that group President Bush, a former owner of the Texas Rangers.

"I would think at that time … 12 years ago, I think it was, 13 years ago … he must have known something."

In July 2007, Bush told ESPN that "I've thought long and hard about that. I really don't remember any discussions or any talk around the ownership group or with the baseball guys at the Rangers about steroid use in 1993 or before. I just don't remember that at all."

Apart from writing his two books, Canseco has been trying to fill the void in his life left by his beloved baseball. He made a recent appearance on a reality TV show "The Surreal Life," which proved popular with the viewers. And he's still popular with fans. While Canseco admitted that his own drive to succeed drove him to use drugs, he said that he did so only to fulfill a promise that he made to his dying mother to be the best baseball player in the world.

When asked if his mother would be proud to know her son achieved success by using steroids, Canseco said," I don't know. … I had the best intentions but didn't take the best route. Sometimes I think about it. So that's a tough question. I don't know. And that's where I got caught up in. Now, would I ever use steroids again, knowing that all this has happened, probably not. Would I advise if I had a son, to use steroids, no. Would I advise kids to use steroids, no. But that's just the way my life turned out."


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:25 pm

CONseco I hope you get your just due.. All this just because all you want to do "is to attack MLB"

Plese don't buy this piece of toilet paper, he calls a fact filled book!"


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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:57 pm

all he wants is $$. HE CAN ROT IN U-KNOW-WHERE!
Change your story....
inconsistencies...
no hard evidence...always "go ask [insert name of player]..."

WTF?!?!? Are you insane? Who is going to give you the time of day?
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:02 pm

omg, he needs to shut his mouth, i dont even know what to think now, except for every copy of that thing he calls a book, needs 2 be burned
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PostSubject: Re: JOSE CANSECO AND MAGGLIO SITUATION   Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:37 pm

No one can honestly take him seriously. He should've been in cahoots with George Mitchell if he really wanted to do some "damage"....
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