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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:58 pm

Because of Global Warming, they will be beachfront property soon...
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:46 pm



so true! Keep up the voices of dissent! go team
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:20 pm

If we can get out idiot governments to quit playing with HAARP in Alaska (which is behind this global warming problem) then maybe the environment could heal. The ozone hole is where they shoot into outerspace. There is too much scientific evidance showing what the govts of the world are doing with this technology to ignore it. Yet we have Asshat like Gore runing around giving mis-information so we do not see who is really behind the weather problems. And Gore knows all about HAARP.


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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:42 pm

yikes!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:45 pm

We need drastic changes in Detroit, Lansing and Washington!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:54 pm

I was reading various HAARP websites. Funny how the govt makes it out to be so benign....
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:00 pm

You can't believe everything you read: And it is so easy to manipulate figures;



Give you an example; I was watching the Weather Channel[ this morning] and they used the 65.7 inches of snow recorded at White Lake as Detroit's official seasonal total so far;


Problem is only 35 inches have been recorded at Metro and 38 at City Airport;


But people that watched it think it has snowed that much downtown!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:32 pm

Typical mis-information, or stupidity as to geography!


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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:13 am

Exactly; Another example; New York City had the first snowless January in 75 years. Some People are blaming global warming despite temps that were close to normal averages for the entire month.
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:48 am

sure is pretty normal here!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:12 am

Watching the early morning news, Kwame looks like the king of pimps!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:01 am

sure likes to feed the stereotype, doesn't he?
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:02 pm

Thursday, February 14, 2008
Court: Release secret papers
Detroit has until Friday to appeal ruling to state Supreme Court
Paul Egan / The Detroit News

A state Appeals Court on Wednesday upheld a Wayne circuit judge's ruling that secret documents related to the city of Detroit's $8.4 million settlement of police whistle-blower lawsuits should be made public.

But a three-judge panel gave the city until Friday to appeal to the Michigan Supreme Court, so the documents will not be immediately released.

The Detroit News and Detroit Free Press sought the records under Michigan's Freedom of Information Act. The records relate to a confidential agreement to keep under wraps text messages exchanged in 2002 and 2003 by Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and former Chief of Staff Christine Beatty.

Those records, published in the media last month, point to possible perjury by Kilpatrick and Beatty when they testified in 2007 at a whistle-blower trial involving former Detroit police officers.

The city did not immediately say whether it would appeal to the state Supreme Court, but Council President Kenneth Cockrel Jr. said the mayor should give up his fight.

"It would be a waste of time and money," Cockrel said. "They should let it go."

On Feb. 8, the city released the confidentiality agreement while appealing to the Michigan Court of Appeals to keep secret other records related to the settlement. The confidentiality agreement was signed by the mayor, Beatty and Michael Stefani, the lawyer for the police officers, but was never seen or approved by the trial judge who heard the case or by members of the Detroit City Council.

It required Stefani and former officers Gary Brown, Harold Nelthrope and Walt Harris to keep the text messages and the contents of the confidentiality agreement secret or pay back to the city nearly the entire $8.4 million they received from their lawsuits.

The council's concern is whether the city paid the officers more than it should have because the mayor and city lawyers were worried Stefani would publicize the text messages.

The officers alleged they were retaliated against for investigating possible wrongdoing by the mayor and his police security guards, including a rumored party with strippers at the mayor's Manoogian Mansion and use of police security to facilitate the mayor's alleged extramarital affairs.

Stefani subpoenaed the SkyTel pager text messages before the case went to trial but said he did not receive the records until after a jury last fall handed down its verdict -- $6.5 million plus interest for Brown and Nelthrope on top of Harris' $400,000 settlement.

It appears the messages then became a bargaining chip in negotiating the final settlement.

Kilpatrick and Beatty testified they did not have an affair and Brown was not fired. The text messages contradict both assertions.

Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy is investigating possible perjury and said Wednesday she will make a decision within a month.
Court backs Colombo

In an order released Wednesday, Appeals Court Judges Brian K Zahra, Helene N. White and Karen M. Fort Hood said Wayne Circuit Judge Robert J. Colombo ruled correctly when he ordered the settlement documents released.

"The documents that remain in dispute were properly found to be subject to disclosure," the panel ruled.

The panel said it was "a closer question" whether the transcript of a closed hearing involving Stefani, questioned under oath by lawyers for the two newspapers, should be made public.

But the court said Colombo did not abuse his discretion in ordering the transcript released.

"It's absolutely a victory for the newspapers," said James E. Stewart, the attorney for The Detroit News. "It affirms what Judge Colombo did but it allows the city to make one more attempt to have this reviewed."

In an addendum to the order, Fort Hood said Colombo might have granted a request to redact from the transcript portions of Stefani's testimony not relevant to the records dispute, but there is no evidence the city asked Colombo to do so.

Kilpatrick and city lawyers have portrayed the fight as one to protect the privacy of all Detroiters; not shield the mayor from embarrassing and possibly incriminating disclosures.

City Corporation Counsel John Johnson expressed disappointment with Wednesday's ruling and said lawyers are considering a further appeal.

"This obviously affects us, but it will also have a chilling effect on all lawyers -- and the people they represent -- who enter the mediation process with a real desire to settle their differences without fear of having their open and honest dialogue subject to public disclosure," Johnson said in a prepared statement.
Will city appeal?

Even if the city does not appeal, no records would be released before Tuesday. That's when the Appeals Court ordered the case returned to Colombo. Courts are closed Monday for Presidents Day.

If the city does appeal, the Supreme Court may not agree to hear the case.

If it does take the case, "it is impossible to say how soon they would act," court spokeswoman Marcia McBrien said.

The high court could decide whether to schedule arguments, or simply ask the parties to file legal briefs, she said.

James K. Fett, a Pinckney lawyer who has argued at least a dozen cases before the Michigan Supreme Court, said the court is "very choosy" about what cases it will take, agreeing to hear only about 5 percent to 10 percent of the appeals submitted to it each year.

Among the factors the court considers is whether its ruling will be helpful to lower court judges, Fett said.

He thinks the Supreme Court will take the city's case.

"Obviously it's high profile and it's a very important public policy matter," Fett said.

Council members passed a resolution Tuesday demanding the law department and outside attorneys retained by the mayor and the city supply all of the settlement documents to them.

They earlier passed a unanimous resolution opposing the appeal of Colombo's ruling.

"Enough is enough," said Councilwoman Sheila Cockrel, who wants all the documents released.

Kenneth Cockrel Jr. said if the city appeals to the state Supreme Court, the council could still take a vote on whether they should intervene in the case.

The council hopes to select an outside attorney to advise it today.

Councilwoman Brenda Jones said she expected to Appeals Court to uphold the release of the documents.

"It was no surprise to me," Jones said. "We've said all the time these records should be public."


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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:19 pm

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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:33 pm

The secrecy has to stop; Release the info and make it known. Enough of the lies and cover ups.


If Kwame and Company can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.


RESIGN!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:14 pm

SHEFF FOR MAYOR!!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:34 am

How about Nate Robertson? He is the only Tiger Player that lives in Metro Detroit!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:35 am

Oh Wait! I forgot! Nate ain't :afro: American!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:35 am

Never Mind!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:15 am

Nate lives in Canton, right?
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:56 am

laprimamirala wrote:
Nate lives in Canton, right?

Yes Nod


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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:24 pm

he's my #5 Tiger after Maggs, Placido, Carlos, and Curtis.
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:11 pm

GO NATE!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:20 am

WOW! I had no idea he lived in Canton.....My wife's family lives there! Hmmmm...I'm gonna have to try to look him up next time I head up that way.
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:28 am

He is the only Tiger Player that lives in Metro Detroit;
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:21 am

Kwame is a disgrace
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:04 am

and now he has some financial thing due to the State next week? The state should have taken over Detroit!
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:47 am

But the :afro: Americans religious leaders and :afro: city council in Detroit would cry racism and that whitey is out to take over
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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:19 am

If Detroit would forget about what race their mayor is, and vote a great city builder, who works with all races, they could be great again. But starting with white flight in the 60's and Coleman Young getting in, our once great city is a wasteland!


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PostSubject: Re: King Kwame's Text Messages   Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:54 am

The guy that ran against him in the last race should have been elected! He was black, but I wasn't really looking at that! This guy knew there were problems, and Kwame being reelected would just make it worse!
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