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PostSubject: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:28 am

BOSTON 12, DETROIT 6
Tigers 1-8 after flop at Fenway

BY JOHN LOWE • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • April 11, 2008

BOSTON -- The potential inspiration of Roger Maris hovered above the middle of the Tigers' batting order Thursday night. As it did, something else became clearer about the Tigers:

The offense hasn't been their only problem.

When left-hander Nate Robertson let a lead immediately disappear in Boston's fourth inning, the Tigers' total of quality starts stayed at one. That's the fewest of any American League team.

A quality start is one of at least six innings and no more than three earned runs. In none of the last six games has a Tigers starter pitched six innings. For the season, no Tigers starter has gone seven. The only quality start was by Kenny Rogers, who pitched six innings in his first start.

The bullpen allowed eight runs of Thursday night's 12-6 loss. But manager Jim Leyland said, "Everybody has made too much of a fuss about the bullpen. If you get five innings from your starters night after night with 110 pitches, there's not a bullpen in the history of the game that will survive."

The Tigers scored twice in the fourth for a 2-0 lead, then never caught up after Robertson allowed four runs in the fourth. That rally started with two one-out walks.

"We (the starting pitchers) have to go out and set that tone for the game," said Robertson, who hasn't gotten close to a quality start in two outings. "I need to get deeper into games."

The Tigers are 1-8, and besides their win total and their quality-start total, one represents something else unexpected. It's the RBI total for each of their Nos. 3-5 hitters, Gary Sheffield, Magglio Ordoñez and Miguel Cabrera.

They are each starting as Maris did in 1961, when he had one RBI in the Yankees' first 10 games.

In the 11th game, at Tiger Stadium, Maris hit his first homer. Before the season ended, he hit 60 more and broke Babe Ruth's season record.

Any slugger can struggle in the first 10 games, even one who's going to have a historic season.

Ordoñez's first RBI came on a seventh-inning homer Thursday. He said he's starting to feel better at the plate, getting deeper into counts.

Cabrera barely missed a fifth-inning solo homer off Tim Wakefield with a drive high off the centerfield fence. He went slowly into second on the play; it appeared his troublesome left leg was bothering him anew. Leyland said he'd merely caught a spike during the at-bat and that he was fine.

Sheffield said his swing hasn't been affected by the torn tendon in left ring finger. He smacked what could have been a two-run single up the middle to make it a one-run game in the eighth. But shortstop Julio Lugo had him shaded up the middle and turned a rally-aborting double play.

Boston first baseman Sean Casey had three RBIs in his first start against his former team. Casey described why he has happily accepted a part-time role on the defending World Series champions.

"Being in Detroit the last few years, being in the World Series and getting that taste of being on a winning team, that sealed the deal for me," he said.

This year's Tigers continue to wait for that winning feeling, the way Maris waited for his power stroke early in 1961.
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:41 am

Oh boy! I'm glad I went to bed and didn't see the end of this one.

Come on guys - let's get it together!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:45 am

me either!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:17 am

same here!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:59 am

not sure what I'll do about tonight!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:03 am

my cell phone decided it wasn't going to work right and I couldn't get to the web to check the score...which is probably a good thing. The last I knew, the Tigers were up 2-0......I had no clue what the end result was untill I got home from work.
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:21 am

wish it could have stayed 2-0!!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:18 am

Sad thing is, our bats started coming alive, it was our pitching that stunk.

DetroitAB
RH

RBI
BB
SO
LOB
AVG
Inge, CF4
01

2
0
1
1
.267
Polanco, 2B4
02

2
1
0
1
.152
Sheffield, DH3
00

0
1
0
3
.190
Ordonez, RF4
11

1
1
0
2
.270
Cabrera, 3B5
01

0
0
3
3
.138
Guillen, 1B4
01

0
1
1
4
.323
Renteria, SS4
10

0
1
3
3
.237
Rodriguez, C3
23

0
1
0
0
.235
Thames, LF4
21

0
1
0
5
.214
Totals35
610

5
7
8
22


Inge had 1 hits and 2 RBIs
Polanco 2 for 4 with 2 RBIs and 1 BB
Sheff walked 1 time, hit by pitch 1 time
Maggs Hit a great home run plus 1 BB
Cabrera just missed his 2nd HR
Guillen had a double, 1 BB, 1 stolen base
Renteria had 1 BB and scored
Pudge went 3 for 3, 1 BB, 1 HBP, scored 2 runs
Thames had 1 hit, 1 BB, and scored 2 runs


“It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable.”    
–Joe Garagiola


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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:30 am

man what a cold start!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:12 pm

:puke2:


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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:18 pm

something has to change! not sure what!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:57 pm

Start winning, that's what!
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:11 pm

I mean in the clubhouse chemistry. Something is preventing them from working like a team....at least it looks that way....
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:41 pm

Leland needs to go back to his plan when he first came to Detroit... quit taking themselves so serious, play hard, HAVE FUN. If you watch their faces, the only players I see smiling is D-Train (it's just his nature), Inge, and Rogers.

If they loosen up, and play like kids again, the talent is there to win.


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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:49 pm

GoGetEmTigers wrote:
play hard, HAVE FUN.

and stop standin' around out there like you've had too much Thanksgiving dinner! rant
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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:51 pm

laprimamirala wrote:
GoGetEmTigers wrote:
play hard, HAVE FUN.

and stop standin' around out there like you've had too much Thanksgiving dinner! rant

That is part of the PLAY HARD!


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PostSubject: Re: Flop at Fenway   Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:53 pm

it is!!
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