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PostSubject: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:20 pm

Maybe you have something in mind like a trade the Tigers could/could've made, lineup opinions, stuff like that. These ideas should be posted here. Along with any other new ideas you may have.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:35 pm

Come to think of it, I think we could've traded Jacque Jones and maybe Sheff for Jim Thome, I mean, Thome is more efficient than Sheff when hitting in the DH spot.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:39 pm

Sox would never give up Thome for two guys that aren't producing.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:40 pm

So, its worth a try, and maybe they see potential in those two, I just really like Thome, he is super good!
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:47 pm

gdennis59 wrote:
So, its worth a try, and maybe they see potential in those two, I just really like Thome, he is super good!

Voted second nicest player below Mike Sweeney too.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:48 pm

I think we should trade somebody with the Bo Sox and get our Sean Casey back where he belongs. Sad Although I don't think he'll want to come here.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 2:50 pm

Aww, I miss Sean too (especially on first base...)
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 6:25 pm

I miss Sean too, we could DH him and have Sheff sit, or put him at first, shift Miggy back to 3rd, put Sean on first and have Los DH
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 09, 2008 7:19 pm

With what we are paying Sheff, he will play, tigers are not going to pay for his services and not use him. It seems that playing him in LF is starting to get his bat working. Once he is able to enjoy the game again, I am sure the home runs will come again. Platooning Shef with Thames and Joyce for outfield duty may work.

I miss Casey too, but he is gone now. Miggy will work out fine at 1st. Inge is now classed an Infielder so you will see him playing most any of those positions, including more catching. We already have too many DH players!

I don't see us having any trades coming our way. I think they will be smart and use our farm system players to fill holes. We have many great players in the farm system, just waiting for a chance to shine and at a much lower cost.

I wish we could have gotten someone for J. Jones, but he is a slow starter and nobody wants him. He was a Dombrowski and/or Leland trade mistake. He is like Inge in that way. Luckly Inge is a great fielder, it partially makes up for him being a poor hitter.


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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Sat May 10, 2008 2:22 am

We should never have traded for J Jones.


Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon May 12, 2008 3:51 am

This is from the Tiger forums at the Detroit news. This person makes a lot os sense, in most points! My notes in green.


Fri. 05/9/08 11:55 AM

Drastic_lineup_change

Mr. Ilytch doesn't PAY me to Run his Ball Club but HE Needs to do something
to Salvage his Team. This season and future Seasons.

Player Personnel;

Immediate; Renteria, Sheffield TRADE OR RELEASE (not sure here)

Internal moves;

Brandon Inge starts at 3b period. thumbs up

for now Ramon Santiago is the starting SS :shrug:

Cabrera stays at 1B thumbs up

polanco stays at 2B thumbs up

Ordonez, Granderson with Matt Joyce and Thimes platooning thumbs up

GUILLEN is the DH and should play some SS that's IT thumbs up

Get Rayburn more at Bats as well thumbs up

Hessman deserves a call up and some at bats thumbs up (he has been a home run machine!)

Pitching;

First off PITCHING COACH IS FIRED thumbs up thumbs up

Second Jack Morris is my Pitching Coach thumbs up


I Trust Jack to get the guys going wanna bet me?

Finally it's Time to deal with MR Emotional Jimmy Leyland

This guy is Overrated. Doesn't have the feel or game timing any more. Too much a players coach. Too worried about feelings.

Losing is a Bad Feeling

LOSING DUMB IS WORST thumbs up

What's BILL FREEHAN doing these days? He'd make a fine manager. thumbs up

There is so Much work to be done after the off season MADNESS

I'm not Happy but I still love the Tigers. I truely hope they make liars out of me but this is BS so far.

By the way STOP raping the Farm System Home grown talent is the best
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon May 12, 2008 11:08 am

I think that guys got his head screwed on right! I mean, with the exception of Leyland, that all sounds good.

Oh, and maybe instead of Matt Joyce or Marcus Thames, put Clete Thomas in left!
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon May 12, 2008 1:04 pm

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I think we should trade somebody with the Bo Sox and get our Sean Casey back where he belongs. Sad Although I don't think he'll want to come here.

If we are going to make a trade with Boston....I'd say trade Sheff and someone else for Kevin You-Kill-Us. He obviously LOVES going deep at CoPa, and would make the NY-Boston series that more interesting. Imagine Sheff playing for Boston....the Yankees would cringe at the idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon May 12, 2008 1:49 pm

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rickimouse wrote:
I think we should trade somebody with the Bo Sox and get our Sean Casey back where he belongs. Sad Although I don't think he'll want to come here.

If we are going to make a trade with Boston....I'd say trade Sheff and someone else for Kevin You-Kill-Us. He obviously LOVES going deep at CoPa, and would make the NY-Boston series that more interesting. Imagine Sheff playing for Boston....the Yankees would cringe at the idea.

Youk thumbs up

Sheff thumbs up


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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon May 12, 2008 1:50 pm

"Kevin You-Kill-Us" LMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Tue May 13, 2008 7:06 am

GoGetEmTigers wrote:

Brandon Inge starts at 3b period. thumbs up
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon May 19, 2008 3:18 pm

All Jack Morris has done is PISS OFF Verlander by implying he is hurt.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Thu May 29, 2008 3:40 pm

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All Jack Morris has done is PISS OFF Verlander by implying he is hurt.

If Pissing off Verlander makes him better....I volunteer to be the Tigers Official "Piss-Verlander-Off-Mascot"! LMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Thu May 29, 2008 3:57 pm

Ohios#1TigerFan wrote:
tigersaint wrote:
All Jack Morris has done is PISS OFF Verlander by implying he is hurt.

If Pissing off Verlander makes him better....I volunteer to be the Tigers Official "Piss-Verlander-Off-Mascot"! LMAO

LMAO I want to help!
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Thu May 29, 2008 7:44 pm

Go Verlander
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 30, 2008 9:20 am

I say we somehow get Kirk Gibson up here to manage. He only has a coaching role with the D-backs. He's the right age and could probably relate to the team better. JMHO.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 30, 2008 10:01 am

Gibson is the AZ bench coach, who is really the asst. manager! He is the guy with all the facts and figures on opposing players, and the manager goes to him for suggestions as to what to do. So he really is, sort of, acting as a manager now. He would be great!


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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 30, 2008 10:05 am

and he's cute too!
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 30, 2008 2:44 pm

laprimamirala wrote:
and he's cute too!

He does look good! I couldn't believe it when I saw him, didn't recognize him. He looks so much better now without the long scraggily hair and beard he used to have.
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 30, 2008 6:25 pm

Male Pattern Baldness took care of the hair on Gibby's head.


And a razor the beard.


He does look better now!
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Fri May 30, 2008 9:02 pm

They also said he has finally mellowed a bit, no longer a hot head! He would make a good manager, firey when needed, but intelligent and loved by the players.


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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Sat May 31, 2008 1:57 am

We need Gibby
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Sat May 31, 2008 9:10 pm

Possible Sellers: Detroit Tigers

Once again, we're only two months into the season, and a lot can change between now and July. Using a familiar anecdote, the Yankees were 22-29 last May 31, and ended up being the best team in baseball in the second half. So while they looked like possible sellers on May 31, when July rolled around that would no longer be the case. The Detroit Tigers have a similar possibility this year.

Touted by a to-be-unnamed ESPN analyst as having the best offense in baseball history, the Tigers have faltered in 2008. They're 23-31, good for fourth place in the AL Central. The good news is that they can turn it around. The bad news is that the division rival Cleveland Indians are also having a poor run, sitting at 25-29. Any potential run by the Tigers could be dampened by a potential Cleveland streak.

So if you're Dave Dombrowski, do you consider reloading for next year? The armchair GM in us is likely to say yes. Clearly, though, Dombrowski won't be so impulsive. He and manager Jim Leyland have been tinkering with the lineup to see if they can spark anything. Namely, the idea is to move Carlos Guillen, who has already switched from first to third this season, to left field. That would open up third base for Brandon Inge.

I'm not quite sure that's the best idea, considering Marcus Thames is hitting better than Inge, though in fewer at bats. So it's doubtful that this tinkering really gets things going. Just ask Joe Girardi. He's been tweaking his lineup since Day 1. And while the Yankees have started hitting, I don't think anyone is attributing it to his daily lineup shifts. Your players have to hit, plain and simple. And it stands to reason that the Tigers will hit, regardless of the lineup.

Who's expendable? Magglio Ordonez? It's not often you see a team trade their best hitter. But Maggs is 34 this year. I'm not saying he'll tank next year, but the Tigers could be seeing his peak value pass this July. If they're truly out of it, they could consider a Maggs move. Conversely, they could consider his potential production next year far too valuable to sacrifice. He's signed through 2009, with a pair of $15MM team options for 2010 and 2011.

Edgar Renteria? He's in the final year of his four-year deal, though he does have a $11MM club option for next year. That could be an attractive contract for an acquiring team. Placido Polanco? I only mention his name because he's signed on the cheap, $4.6MM, through 2009. He could net some return for the Tigers because of his cheapness and consistency at the plate.

I know Kenny Rogers and Nate Robertson will enter the conversation at some point. I just don't think the pair of lefties will get the Tigers anything attractive in return. They could be token trades for players in the lower minors, for high-risk players. But if they consider themselves out of contention, it's better than nothing, I suppose.


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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:02 am

Too early to count out 2008

But the next homestand will be big


Will go a long way towards deciding the Tigers Fate
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PostSubject: Re: Tigers Ideas   Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:20 pm

We're not out of it yet. Chicago and Cleveland have been losing at a faster pace than we have in the past few weeks. We can still catch up and win the division...as long as our pitching continues to show up!

I don't see us as "sellers" unless we are double digits out of 1st at the trade deadline...then we might make some moves.
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