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PostSubject: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:49 pm

Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase
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Fulfilling a campaign promise, President Barack Obama signed the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) bill into law this week; the measure will expand healthcare coverage for children using funds from a 62-cent-per-pack increase in the federal cigarette tax.

The Detroit Free Press reported Feb. 4 that Obama approved the $74-billion SCHIP reauthorization legislation passed by the House of Representatives earlier in the day on a 290-135 vote. The Senate had previously approved the measure, which was vetoed twice last year by then-President George Bush.

The measure is expected to make an additional 4 million children eligible for SCHIP; the program currently covers about 7 million. In addition to increasing the federal cigarette tax to $1.01 per pack, the law will raise taxes on other cigarette products, generating estimated revenues of $71.4 billion over five years.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:56 pm

Now...I can agree that we need healthcare for the under-priveledged children in this country....but why target one specific group of people to pay for it? What ever happened to sharing the burden of tax on ALL Americans?

Why not tax fast food? :shrug: I mean, EVERYONE goes through a drive thru every now and then. That would be an equal distribution of the tax burden to pay for his socialist programs. Obama's only been in office 2 months and he's already destroying the country. rant

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:08 pm

What gets me is, they are doing everything they can to get people to quit smoking, then add this tax to the very product that they want people to use less of, and expect the funds to cover SCHIP coverage! STUPID.

Like you said, they should have put the tax on snack foods or fast foods, that cause the kids to be obese, which leads to them needing more healthcare!

I'm not against SCHIP, except it will cover mostly illegal aliens, but they do not think before they act.

Sometimes I think we put the dumbest people we can find in office, then scratch our heads when they do dumb things.


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:33 pm

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What gets me is, they are doing everything they can to get people to quit smoking, then add this tax to the very product that they want people to use less of, and expect the funds to cover SCHIP coverage! STUPID.

Like you said, they should have put the tax on snack foods or fast foods, that cause the kids to be obese, which leads to them needing more healthcare!

I'm not against SCHIP, except it will cover mostly illegal aliens, but they do not think before they act.

Sometimes I think we put the dumbest people we can find in office, then scratch our heads when they do dumb things.



And if everyone decides to quit smoking; where would the money come from


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:54 am

Being a nonsmoker I hate smokers/smoking so I like cigarette taxes. I also enjoy being a Californian where smoking is illegal almost everywhere. There is no such thing as a smoking section in a restaurant, you can't smoke in bars, most beaches are smoke-free, there are even towns where it is illegal to smoke anywhere but your own home/car. Hospitals are smoke-free and most colleges have only designated smoking sections (if they permit smoking at all).

California isn't perfect though - in 2006 there was a ballot initiative to raise the statewide cigarette tax $2.60 per pack. It was narrowly defeated 48-52% California lawmakers are currently trying to raise the tax an additional $1.50. The state tax is currently 31st in the nation. That extra $1.50 would make it 5th highest. The would-be $1.50 tax hike would also prohibit the sale of cigarettes within 1,000 feet of schools, video stores, donut shops, and other places that children frequently hang out at. (NOTE: I have never seen cigarettes for sale at a video store or donut shop).

They should raise the taxes some more to subsidize the cost of Nicorette and other quit smoking products.


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:53 am

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What gets me is, they are doing everything they can to get people to quit smoking, then add this tax to the very product that they want people to use less of, and expect the funds to cover SCHIP coverage! STUPID.

Like you said, they should have put the tax on snack foods or fast foods, that cause the kids to be obese, which leads to them needing more healthcare!

I'm not against SCHIP, except it will cover mostly illegal aliens, but they do not think before they act.

Sometimes I think we put the dumbest people we can find in office, then scratch our heads when they do dumb things.

You know damn good and well I didn't put that nut-job in office! LOL

But you make a good point...It's hipocracy at it's highest level. They want everyone to quit smoking...OK...sure.....but they want to bite the hand that feeds them by raising the tax! It's like Gs said...next, it'll be beer.

I know smoking is a nasty habit, but to fund a government program based solely on the sale of cigarettes is rediculous and unfair to the ones who DO smoke. Why not tax everyone? Obama wants to "spread the wealth"....how about spreading the tax burden, too? First, they tell smokers where they can and can't smoke....then tax the hell out of it.

It's like I told my wife....I WILL quit before Obama gets one red penny from me to fund his SCHIP program. I've been wanting to quit for a long time, but never really put forth the effort. Now I have a reason to. My own little way of telling Obama to go to Hell!
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:23 am

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You know damn good and well I didn't put that nut-job in office! LOL

Neither did I! But we are having to pay! I don't smoke, but I can see where this would help you quit, like you said. Big Smile

I just pray we have a country that is worth living in after his term is over.

I also love the fact when people throw it at us that "The people have spoken, and almost all Americans wanted him in office"... Well it was less than 60% that wanted him. He just knew how to play the electoral college system, which made it look like a huge landslide of people voted for him.


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:52 am

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Well it was less than 60% that wanted him.

In terms of a Presidential election it is still like a landslide. He received the highest percentage of the popular vote since 1988 (and the most total votes of any candidate ever....this happens almost every election though so it isn't particularly noteworthy). As for the 60% you mentioned, the last candidate to get at least 60% of the vote was Richard Nixon with 60.7% in 1972 (not even Reagan, who won 49 states in 1984 got 60%).

Other candidates to get 60%:
Washington - 100% - 1792 and 1789 (ran unopposed)
Monroe - 80.6% - 1820 (ran unopposed)
Jefferson - 72.8% - 1804
Monroe - 68.2% - 1816
Madison - 64.7% - 1808
Jefferson - 61.4% - 1800
Johnson - 61.1% - 1964
FDR - 60.8% - 1936
Nixon - 60.7% - 1972
Harding - 60.3% - 1920

In real elections only 8 candidates have managed 60% (only 5 of whom managed 61%) and it once went 100 years without happening.

For fun, Adams was elected President in 1824 with 30.9% of the popular vote.

Not really sure what point I was trying to make with that, just felt like looking it up.


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:31 pm

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You know damn good and well I didn't put that nut-job in office! LOL

Neither did I! But we are having to pay! I don't smoke, but I can see where this would help you quit, like you said. Big Smile

I just pray we have a country that is worth living in after his term is over.

I also love the fact when people throw it at us that "The people have spoken, and almost all Americans wanted him in office"... Well it was less than 60% that wanted him. He just knew how to play the electoral college system, which made it look like a huge landslide of people voted for him.


I doubt it

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:54 pm

TAXES!

TAXES!

And more TAXES!
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:54 pm

Be easier for everyone to just declare bankruptcy
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:05 pm

Obama Sucks!


I might move out of this country


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:11 pm

I bet it won't snow here either the next 8 years


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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:52 pm

What irks me the most about all of this is that Obama said he would not raise taxes on the middle class....yet 60% of smokers are middle class. Technically, this means he IS in fact raising taxes on the "working man". Just another lie from "the Great one" in an attempt to socialize our country.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Signs SCHIP Law with Major Tobacco Tax Increase   Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:52 pm

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What irks me the most about all of this is that Obama said he would not raise taxes on the middle class....yet 60% of smokers are middle class. Technically, this means he IS in fact raising taxes on the "working man". Just another lie from "the Great one" in an attempt to socialize our country.



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