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PostSubject: Wrapping up the trade from The Detroit Tiger Weblog   Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:46 am

Wrapping up the trade
From the Detroit Tiger Weblog
Posted by billfer on December 8, 2009.


After some extensive reflection Iíve come to the conclusion that this deal will never really sit well with me. By never I donít actually mean for eternity, but at least until the fruits of the trade bear some sort of championship or something. That isnít a reflection on the players the Tigers received, more on the circumstances and the players they let go. Still, there are ends to tie up and dots to connect and other miscellany in need of blogging.

Roster Moves


The Tigers are plus 2 on their 40 man roster once this deal is made official. Jon Morosi tweeted that the Tigers have let it be known that Bobby Seay, Dusty Ryan, and Jeff Larish are on the trade block.

I can see trying to get something for players who arenít in the plans, and itís clear that Ryan isnít a Jim Leyland favorite (and they signed Robinzon Diaz to a minor league deal today), but why hold space on the roster for Dontrelle Willis or Don Kelly?

Lefty-palooza

In the last 2 days the Tigers have picked up 3 left handed bullpen arms. The Tigers dropped Clay Rapada but they still have Fu-Te Ni and Seay on the roster. Now Thomas is kind of a question mark but the Tigers expect him to help at the big league level. Daniel Schlereth may need more seasoning in the minors and it remains to be seen if the Tigers will use Phil Coke in the rotation or the pen.

But more and more signs point to Seay being non-tendered. Seay would likely make about $2 million so that could potentially be another opportunity to save $1.5 million.

Payroll


Given todayís moves, and even allowing for a return by Seay, I have estimated the Tigers payroll to be about $115 million heading into 2010. In 2011 that committed money drops to $49 million with Magglio Ordonezís option and $34 million without. Of course that only accounts for 3 players so the Tigers would have some holes to fill.

Unfortunately I do believe that todayís move will have a negative impact on attendance before the season even begins. People are pissed and Iíve heard many say they are cancelling their season tickets. It wouldnít surprise me to see outrage and empty checking accounts combine to knock down the season ticket base by 3000 which is roughly a quarter of a million tickets. It gets worse if the Tigers record sinks and letís face it, this team isnít as good as last year.

Silver Linings


Despite being bummed out that Granderson is gone, the reviews of the trade from around the country have been mostly favorable. Keith Law, Dave Cameron, and Rob Neyer have all said that the Tigers did well. Danny Knobler talked to several executives that thought the Tigers got a real nice collection of players. Mike Rogers put some estimates on performance and salary and things seem to work out well in that regard as well.

Iíll just reiterate now that when I speak ill of this trade, it isnít the players the Tigers got back. I think the Tigers got a decent package. I just never wanted to part with Granderson in the first place.

The legacy


Dave Dombrowski has made a number of bold moves in his career. He traded Randy Johnson for Mark Langston. He turned some blockbusters as the Marlins GM and the Miguel Cabrera trade was epic. But if this trade doesnít work out (and we wonít know if it works out for a couple years), this will be his legacy in the Detroit due to Grandersonís popularity. It takes guts to make a move like that.


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PostSubject: Re: Wrapping up the trade from The Detroit Tiger Weblog   Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:51 am

Damn, take Willis and Robertson off the 40 man Roster! Nobody wants them, so why worry!!!!


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PostSubject: Re: Wrapping up the trade from The Detroit Tiger Weblog   Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:33 pm

Well, Robertson did ok after he returned from injury.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrapping up the trade from The Detroit Tiger Weblog   Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:11 pm

i'm bummed, too - granderson and jackson are decent players, and I think grandy's a future hall of famer. This had better yield a championchip or there'll be lotsa splainin to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Wrapping up the trade from The Detroit Tiger Weblog   Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:24 pm

We lost Jackson because he has Boras as his agent... Grandy because they backloaded his contract (where he got his big raises starting this year and the go up fast in the next two), yet if they had not let Magg's contract vest, then his 18 mil would have covered all three outfielders salary!


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PostSubject: Re: Wrapping up the trade from The Detroit Tiger Weblog   Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:48 pm

Damnit Maggs!
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